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[提琴制作] 让我们一起来加深对木材的认识吧!——“虎纹”是怎么形成的?

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 楼主| jialeyh 发表于 2019-10-11 08:12:33 | 只看该作者
太极神人 发表于 2019-10-10 15:54
不愧是论坛元老,对这个问题有如此深刻的研究,佩服!
要真正解开虎纹之谜,可能需要广泛搜集资料,进行跨 ...

不敢,同学同乐啊
良好的音准主要是建立在由耳朵指导的触指感觉上的。——加拉米安
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 楼主| jialeyh 发表于 2019-10-11 08:13:19 | 只看该作者
jyx52 发表于 2019-10-10 18:31
厉害,把木头解析得如此透彻。学习了。谢谢。


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 楼主| jialeyh 发表于 2019-10-11 08:14:20 | 只看该作者
大好大好人 发表于 2019-10-10 20:23
结合各种资料,个人认为那只是木纹生长弯曲,切断之后各种扭曲的纹路形成不同的截面,这些截面在一定角度反 ...

有道理,有可能
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 楼主| jialeyh 发表于 2019-10-11 08:14:56 | 只看该作者
maciscoma 发表于 2019-10-10 14:31
好专业!
搬凳子霸位学习


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 楼主| jialeyh 发表于 2019-10-11 08:18:29 | 只看该作者
春华之语 发表于 2019-10-10 22:21
第一次看到这么高科技的图片,太好了


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SULLIVAN 发表于 2019-10-11 08:56:15 | 只看该作者
会不会是树木生长在不同时间不同导致的,类似于春秋材

点评

有可能。生长速度不一样,结构不一样。 但这个无法解释为什么只有少数树种才出现“虎纹”  详情 回复 发表于 2019-10-11 10:14
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 楼主| jialeyh 发表于 2019-10-11 09:45:17 | 只看该作者
本帖最后由 jialeyh 于 2019-10-14 09:38 编辑

11、我找到一段有关“虎纹”的英文叙述:

“Figured wood has been sought and worshipped for its beauty for centuries. Any design, pattern, or distinctive mark that appears on the surfaces of wood may be described as figure, and it results from combinations of color, luster, texture, and grain.

Even though it has been studied for a long time, very little is known about why figure develops in wood. There are a lot of contradictory theories, and the ultimate causes are largely unknown. Ecological factors have been studied to see if they have an affect on figure, but there are no studies that have shown a definitive correlation of factors like geographic location, climate, soil, bark, foliage, rate of growth, etc. on figure. Most of the best figured wood develops in well formed, straight, healthy trees. All figured wood types occur in almost every part of the world where figure is recognized, although certain areas appear to produce more figured trees than other areas. ”

大意如下:


人们对“花纹”的研究由来已久,但对其成因仍然所知甚少。学说何其多,真相却了了。
研究了生态因素的影响。比如,地区、气候、土壤等等的影响。亦无功而返。



“There are three broad types of figure, including “normal figure” (texture variation showing growth layers, knots, etc.), “pigment figure,” and “specific figure,” which results from the non-vertical alignment of longitudinal fibers in the wood. Specific figure can be hidden or enhanced by cutting methods, such as quarter sawn, flat (plain) sawn, etc.

Figure occurs in living trees primarily as variations or distortions in the vertical alignment of grain in either radial or tangential directions that result in common figure types known as stripe, blister, curl, wavy, and several other variations. Commercially usable figure is seldom found in trees less than ten inches in diameter. Once it starts, it becomes more pronounced in subsequent growth rings. Wavy grain is quite common near limbs and roots, where it is localized in small areas.

Some is wavy in the radial plane while some is wavy in the tangential plane. The cause of undulating growth is traced to the method of cell division and enlargement. Undulating growth appears to the viewer as an optical illusion of movable stripes or contrasting patches of light and dark areas resulting from the fibrous structure. Figure caused by undulating grain in wood is similar to striations formed in certain gemstones. Figure is also a result, in part, of an interference pattern produced by light rays striking the fine, undulating fibrous elements contained within figured wood.

When the radial surface of wood exhibits wavy growth or grain, the tangential face is smooth and the wavy or undulating grain can be observed, but is not evident to the touch. When a wood section with curly grain is split, it separates along the rays and along the wavy grain and is exhibited as a corrugated surface that can be seen and felt on the radial surface. Undulating growth is the result of elongation of individual cells that are initiated at the same time which are somewhat delayed, resulting in some that are longer than others.


Wood with curly or fiddleback figure commonly is cut in a manner to display a radial surface, which would be corrugated if the wood had been split. Appearing on smooth surfaces in place of waves are series of alternately bright and dark stripes that shade into one another and produce an illusion of actual waves. Change in brightness result from differential light reflection. Relatively high absorption by exposed fiber ends produces dark bands; reflection and diffraction from fiber walls cause bright bands. Because the fiber walls are curved sharply and act as concave or convex reflecting surfaces, any change in angle or view or incident light makes the apparent waves seem to shift.

When cut on the true quarter, fiddleback figure will show as a series of straight, evenly spaced, horizontal or slightly canted stripes. When cut slightly off true quarter, these stripes may appear wavy or branched."


大意如下:

( 虽然花纹生产的原因还没有定论,但下面的理论给出了一种解释 )

花纹,比如“虎纹”产生的原因,是木质纤维细胞分裂过程中发生了弯曲生长。在径切面上,这种弯曲的纤维被切割露出。纤维末端部分,由于吸收光线,呈现暗条纹;而纤维管表面部分,由于能很好地反射光线,呈现明亮的条纹。两个区域交替,就组成了“虎纹”花纹。


点评

@太极神人 您是外语翻译大师,根据上面出现的英文专用词汇,不知能否在境外网站搜索到更多的相关资料?  详情 回复 发表于 2019-10-11 09:51
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 楼主| jialeyh 发表于 2019-10-11 09:51:29 | 只看该作者
jialeyh 发表于 2019-10-11 09:45
我找到一段有关“虎纹”的英文叙述:

“Figured wood has been sought and worshipped for its beauty for ...

@太极神人 您是外语翻译大师,根据上面出现的英文专用词汇,不知能否在境外网站搜索到更多的相关资料?
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 楼主| jialeyh 发表于 2019-10-11 10:14:49 | 只看该作者
SULLIVAN 发表于 2019-10-11 08:56
会不会是树木生长在不同时间不同导致的,类似于春秋材

有可能。生长速度不一样,结构不一样。
但这个无法解释为什么只有少数树种才出现“虎纹”
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kenneth55 发表于 2019-10-11 10:43:55 | 只看该作者
不愧元老,对资料收集得如此详尽,佩服之至!径切面将沿轴向摇摆弯曲生长的纤维切断,使得被切断纤维束在截面上呈不同角度,与截面角度大的纤维吸收光线,而角度小的反之,在视觉上便形成了“虎纹”。对楼主大赞!

点评

国内看到的只字片语解释也是倾向于这个理论。 从立体几何上看,这个解释容易站得住脚。不过为什么要弯曲生长?其进一步的原因分析似乎仍不充分。  详情 回复 发表于 2019-10-11 11:06
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 楼主| jialeyh 发表于 2019-10-11 10:52:59 | 只看该作者
本帖最后由 jialeyh 于 2019-10-14 09:38 编辑

12、我画一个虎纹分布的示意图:


根据示意图,“虎纹”好像是一层一层沿树干分布的。这自然会让人联想到两种可能的成因:


1、类似年轮中的“早晚材”,会不会是生长密度不同产生的?

   但是这个推测不好解释为什么其它树种没有“虎纹”?


2、是纤维弯弯曲曲生长造成的(如上面的那段英文解释)

   但是为什么纤维在枫树等少数树木中会弯曲生长,在其它树种中却不会?这个好像目前也没有答案。

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kenneth55 发表于 2019-10-11 10:55:10 | 只看该作者
本帖最后由 kenneth55 于 2019-10-11 11:12 编辑

纤维的扭曲生长可能是由于树木自身重力和“早材”“晚材”的强度各异,松散的“早材”不时地被挤压堆积形成。如楼主上图“径切面的虎纹”右半部分。这种木材通常为直木纹,但是亦会出现弯曲状、弓背状和鸟眼形木纹。

点评

有资料写,枫树的早晚材不明显,枫木中的管孔多且分布均匀。  详情 回复 发表于 2019-10-11 11:15
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 楼主| jialeyh 发表于 2019-10-11 11:06:34 | 只看该作者
kenneth55 发表于 2019-10-11 10:43
不愧元老,对资料收集得如此详尽,佩服之至!径切面将沿轴向摇摆弯曲生长的纤维切断,使得被切断纤维束在截 ...

国内看到的只字片语解释也是倾向于这个理论。
从立体几何上看,这个解释容易站得住脚。不过为什么要弯曲生长?其进一步的原因分析似乎仍不充分。
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 楼主| jialeyh 发表于 2019-10-11 11:15:16 | 只看该作者
本帖最后由 jialeyh 于 2019-10-11 11:16 编辑
kenneth55 发表于 2019-10-11 10:55
纤维的扭曲生长可能是由于树木自身重力和“早材”“晚材”的强度各异,松散的“早材”不时地被挤压堆积形成 ...

有资料称,枫树的早晚材不明显,枫木中的管孔多且分布均匀。
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 楼主| jialeyh 发表于 2019-10-11 11:31:31 | 只看该作者
不知道“弯曲理论“说有没有经过实物观察证实,分离出了弯曲的木纤维? 还是仅仅停留在理论推测阶段?
不知道网上有无实证的介绍资料?
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kenneth55 发表于 2019-10-11 13:08:54 | 只看该作者
jialeyh 发表于 2019-10-11 11:15
有资料称,枫树的早晚材不明显,枫木中的管孔多且分布均匀。

是啊,maple的波动生长的原因可能要追溯到细胞分裂……,也许它太高大挺拔,地心引力及内部挤压直接影响到它的细胞分裂,呵呵呵……。同样是它,这种规律的波纹“虎纹”在根部和分支上体现的几乎没有。(Wavy grain is quite common near limbs and roots, where it is localized in small areas.)

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点评

”。。。也许它太高大挺拔,地心引力及内部挤压。。。“——面板杉树也高达挺拔的啊!  详情 回复 发表于 2019-10-11 13:50
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 楼主| jialeyh 发表于 2019-10-11 13:13:10 | 只看该作者
发现了”国际木材解剖学家协会(IAWA)“网站,里面有各种树种的显微解剖照片。

网站地址:http://www.iawa-website.org/

分页地址:比如:https://insidewood.lib.ncsu.edu/description?86
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 楼主| jialeyh 发表于 2019-10-11 13:15:41 | 只看该作者
kenneth55 发表于 2019-10-11 13:08
是啊,maple的波动生长的原因可能要追溯到细胞分裂……,也许它太高大挺拔,地心引力及内部挤压直接影响 ...


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 楼主| jialeyh 发表于 2019-10-11 13:50:50 | 只看该作者
本帖最后由 jialeyh 于 2019-10-11 13:56 编辑
kenneth55 发表于 2019-10-11 13:08
是啊,maple的波动生长的原因可能要追溯到细胞分裂……,也许它太高大挺拔,地心引力及内部挤压直接影响 ...

”。。。也许它太高大挺拔,地心引力及内部挤压。。。“——面板杉树也高大挺拔的啊!


能看到虎纹波浪状木纤维束的实物图片就好了,至少证实了理论推测。至于为什么枫木纤维会波浪式生长,就留给植物学家们继续寻找答案好了。
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kenneth55 发表于 2019-10-11 13:59:13 | 只看该作者
jialeyh 发表于 2019-10-11 13:50
”。。。也许它太高大挺拔,地心引力及内部挤压。。。“——面板杉树也高大挺拔的啊!

。平时注意一起收集这方面的资料,很有意思。谢谢你的立题!
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